First, thanks to all for your concern. It is very appreciated.
The biopsy results came in today. I think I’ll be able to write about them; I’ve gone rather numb.
It is still possible that it is a fibrous sarcoma, which is what the vet had prepared me for. However, the lab results and, in retrospect, the physical presentation, point to the worse diagnosis of a hemangiosarcoma (subcutaneous). Here is a website, if you are interested:
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_hemangiosarcoma.html
And here is the summary.
The vet was hopeful that it could have been a liposarcoma, cancer in fat cells, as those are very localized and don’t metastasize or recur. That was very unlikely before, and pretty much scratched off the list after the surgery. At that point, we were hoping for a fibrous sarcoma, cancer of muscle cells. Those are very localized and don’t metastasize, though recurrence is common. This still might be what it is.
It is more likely, though, that this is a hemangio sarcoma, cancer of the blood vessels. It doesn’t metastasize, it just exists anywhere that there are blood vessels. This one seems to have manifested in the minor vasculature, but in dogs particularly it does move in to the organs, particularly the spleen and heart. That is, in a small word, bad.
Basically, if it grows back immediately we’ll figure it’s a hemangiosarcoma. There’s no other real clear diagnostic test. We could also run chest x-rays; if we see small tumors growing all over elsewhere it’s probably a hemangiosarcoma.
I’m opting for the x-rays as soon as Grail is recovered from the surgery; probably some time in January. I’d rather know.
Hemangiosarcomas don’t respond particularly well to radiation or chemo. If it does recur, which is likely if that is what this is, the clearest next option would be to do another surgery, but pull even more of the surrounding tissues. This would have to be done by a specialist, as they would probably have to remove or at least resculpt parts of the lower intestine, and it is probable that they would remove the leg (not that they’d have to remove the leg, but they’d be removing so much of the abdominal musculature that the leg would no longer function).
The vet delicately tried to tell me that there are no effective treatments for hemangiosarcomas. Median life expectancy after agressive surgery, which is what we just did, is about 6 months. Treatments may or may not do anything to prolong that.
And if I did radiation, which might help the cancer, the location – right near the kidneys – is problematic. One of those, ‘the good news is he won’t die of cancer’ kind of situations.
So. That’s where I am.
I am now, mercifully, numb. Whenever I think about it – in a real, non-clinical way – I fall to pieces. Loud, hysterical, sobbing pieces.
This is very hard.
I am so sorry….. I read the site. I had hoped for something that could be treated and watched for… but it looks like there is no solution to this one. When the time comes, would you like for me to come? I wish there was something more tangeable i could do, but maybe it would help if i was just there. And maybe not. Sometimes we need to be alone. I am so sorry… for you, for Grailing.
ugh…this is very sad. i was sharing the news with my folks…as we are all cat people and i had asked that they keep grailing in their thoughts…and mom thought that one Sean’s sister’s dogs had the blood vessel cancer as well.
i actually started bawling reading this…and tearing up again…
i am just glad that no matter what the outcome Grailing is loved and has a wonderful home with wonderful kitty parents. i hate situations like this…but just listen to Grail…he’ll tell you what he wants.
🙁 condolances
My dog was just diagnosed today; we had the spleen and tumor removed on Wednesday. There’s no stopping it apparently. The vet said she’ll tell us when she’s ready to go — no tail wags, no eating.
I’m with you tonite.